Last week, well really early this week the Kay County Association of Baptist Churches thought it would be a good idea to hold a revival in Ponca City, OK. So prior to this they stuck some of their trash about this event on my apartment door. Just what I want is someone else trash to throw away. So I have been suffering from an bad allergy attack that day and left work early. While resting at home I decided that I would make a visit to this event to see what these people think is so important for me to hear that they have to trash up my door.
The even started at 7:00 pm so I drove down and went in. I was going to sit near the back or somewhere innocuous out of the way. Not really knowing what I was going to do, but I did bring my notebook and some snacks. [I guess you don't eat snacks at these things. They didn't have anything to drink either.] I will touch back with some of the opening ceremonies after I hit on some of the meat of the matter.
The Speaker was Kevin Clarkson of First Baptist Church of Moore, Oklahoma. That was the church that “God” destroyed with a tornado on May 3, 1999. You can see their cross on the banner of my blog. The Reverend Clarkson open up his show with a statement that "Christianity is under attack" in America. Looks like it is under attack from God if you look at my pictures.
To support this he sites as examples of the recent best selling books, The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and The End of Faith by Sam Harris on the New York Times best seller list. Then he gave a skewed view of the contents of the books, to the audiences delight and ignorance. He did make the point not to mention the success of the Left Behind Series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins. But he did throw in a little bit of The DeVinci Code by Dan Brown and how bad it was.
Then he went in to the discussion of other religions and how The God Delusion by Dawkins sets up other religions as being all the same in how they represented their beliefs but "Christianity is uniquely different."
To wish I add, "Just like all the other religions."
He went on to attack The Rational Response Squad's The Blasphemy Challenge saying that They were actually convincing young people to go around and record themselves blaspheming The Holy Spirit. However he went on to add that he really didn't see anyone them really blaspheming God, just saying that they didn't believe in the Holy Spirit and in God. He didn't want to go into what the "actual" unpardonable sin was but I have a feeling he might really know. He went on to say there is still hope for those young people.
He also said something about Oprah creating a religion. I didn't really follow that. I thought she already was a religion. Poor Oprah, she just can't catch a break.
Rev. Clarkson also mentioned the famous Clive Staples [C.S.] Lewis as the author of "Narnia." I think he meant The Chronicles of Narnia." Rev, Clarkson also added a few other comments, he added the title of Dean of both Oxford and Cambridge to Lewis. Which Lewis was certainly familiar with Oxford as that is where he attended college he was a professor at Cambridge. He did also teach at Magdelan College in Oxford in where he meet and became friends with several other writers including J.R.R. Tolkien and they called themselves "The Inklings." But I digress.
The point is if you are going to make a statements as fact, check your facts.
One point that really showed the total lack of knowledge of this speaker was when he said, "[T]hose that do not have God, do not have morals."
To which I say, "Oh really?" To which I would add, "Those that do have a God have no morality."
Another such area lacking fundamental examination of facts is when Rev. Clarkson said there were five Greek and Jewish writers alive at the time of Jesus writing about him. I am not sure if he meant five Greeks and five Jewish or some combination of five of the two.
According to my searching I have found one Jewish and two Romans historians that wrote anything vaguely about a person that fits that description. The writers are Josephus [Jewish], Pliny the Elder or Younger [Roman] and Tacitus. This adds up to one Jewish, zero Greek and two Romans. Not five and none Greek. Where did this guy go to seminary at? The Universal Life Church?
The even started at 7:00 pm so I drove down and went in. I was going to sit near the back or somewhere innocuous out of the way. Not really knowing what I was going to do, but I did bring my notebook and some snacks. [I guess you don't eat snacks at these things. They didn't have anything to drink either.] I will touch back with some of the opening ceremonies after I hit on some of the meat of the matter.
The Speaker was Kevin Clarkson of First Baptist Church of Moore, Oklahoma. That was the church that “God” destroyed with a tornado on May 3, 1999. You can see their cross on the banner of my blog. The Reverend Clarkson open up his show with a statement that "Christianity is under attack" in America. Looks like it is under attack from God if you look at my pictures.
To support this he sites as examples of the recent best selling books, The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and The End of Faith by Sam Harris on the New York Times best seller list. Then he gave a skewed view of the contents of the books, to the audiences delight and ignorance. He did make the point not to mention the success of the Left Behind Series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins. But he did throw in a little bit of The DeVinci Code by Dan Brown and how bad it was.
Then he went in to the discussion of other religions and how The God Delusion by Dawkins sets up other religions as being all the same in how they represented their beliefs but "Christianity is uniquely different."
To wish I add, "Just like all the other religions."
He went on to attack The Rational Response Squad's The Blasphemy Challenge saying that They were actually convincing young people to go around and record themselves blaspheming The Holy Spirit. However he went on to add that he really didn't see anyone them really blaspheming God, just saying that they didn't believe in the Holy Spirit and in God. He didn't want to go into what the "actual" unpardonable sin was but I have a feeling he might really know. He went on to say there is still hope for those young people.
He also said something about Oprah creating a religion. I didn't really follow that. I thought she already was a religion. Poor Oprah, she just can't catch a break.
Rev. Clarkson also mentioned the famous Clive Staples [C.S.] Lewis as the author of "Narnia." I think he meant The Chronicles of Narnia." Rev, Clarkson also added a few other comments, he added the title of Dean of both Oxford and Cambridge to Lewis. Which Lewis was certainly familiar with Oxford as that is where he attended college he was a professor at Cambridge. He did also teach at Magdelan College in Oxford in where he meet and became friends with several other writers including J.R.R. Tolkien and they called themselves "The Inklings." But I digress.
The point is if you are going to make a statements as fact, check your facts.
One point that really showed the total lack of knowledge of this speaker was when he said, "[T]hose that do not have God, do not have morals."
To which I say, "Oh really?" To which I would add, "Those that do have a God have no morality."
Another such area lacking fundamental examination of facts is when Rev. Clarkson said there were five Greek and Jewish writers alive at the time of Jesus writing about him. I am not sure if he meant five Greeks and five Jewish or some combination of five of the two.
According to my searching I have found one Jewish and two Romans historians that wrote anything vaguely about a person that fits that description. The writers are Josephus [Jewish], Pliny the Elder or Younger [Roman] and Tacitus. This adds up to one Jewish, zero Greek and two Romans. Not five and none Greek. Where did this guy go to seminary at? The Universal Life Church?
But it is harder to verify facts than is it to just say something. So I will give him that. Rev, Clarkson did say something.
Oh but the topper of the evening was this quote by the "Right" Rev. Clarkson. He was referring to how all the people at the time of Jesus' life respected Jesus and even his enemies respected him, though he failed to give any examples. He then said, "Even Barack Obama quotes from The Sermon on the Mount."
I just wonder what he was not saying by that statement.
Then he went in to the discussion of other religions and how The God Delusion by Dawkins sets up other religions as being all the same in how they represented their beliefs but "Christianity is uniquely different."
To wish I add, "Just like all the other religions."
He went on to attack The Rational Response Squad's The Blasphemy Challenge saying that They were actually convincing young people to go around and record themselves blaspheming The Holy Spirit. However he went on to add that he really didn't see anyone them really blaspheming God, just saying that they didn't believe in the Holy Spirit and in God. He didn't want to go into what the "actual" unpardonable sin was but I have a feeling he might really know. He went on to say there is still hope for those young people.
He also said something about Oprah creating a religion. I didn't really follow that. I thought she already was a religion. Poor Oprah, she just can't catch a break.
Rev. Clarkson also mentioned the famous Clive Staples [C.S.] Lewis as the author of "Narnia." I think he meant The Chronicles of Narnia." Rev, Clarkson also added a few other comments, he added the title of Dean of both Oxford and Cambridge to Lewis. Which Lewis was certainly familiar with Oxford as that is where he attended college he was a professor at Cambridge. He did also teach at Magdelan College in Oxford in where he meet and became friends with several other writers including J,R,R, Tolkien and they called themselves "The Inklings." But I digress.
The point is if you are going to make a statements as fact, check your facts.
One point that really showed the total lack of knowledge of this speaker was when he said, "[T]hose that do not have God, do not have morals."
To which I say, "Oh really?" To which I would add, "Those that do have a God have no morality."
Another such area lacking fundamental examination of facts is when Rev. Clarkson said there were five Greek and Jewish writers alive at the time of Jesus writing about him. I am not sure if he meant five Greeks and five Jewish or some combination of five of the two.
According to my searching I have found one Jewish and two Romans historians that wrote anything vaguely about a person that fits that description. The writers are Josephus [Jewish], Pliny the Elder or Younger [Roman] and Tacitus. This adds up to one Jewish, zero Greek and two Romans. Not five and none Greek. Where did this guy go to seminary at? The Universal Life Church?
But it is harder to verify facts than is it to just say something. So I will give him that. Rev, Clarkson did say something.
Oh but the topper of the evening was this quote by the "Right" Rev. Clarkson. He was referring to how all the people at the time of Jesus' life respected Jesus and even his enemies respected him, though he failed to give any examples. He then said, "Even Barack Obama quotes from The Sermon on the Mount."
I just wonder what he was not saying by that statement.
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